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ahhhhhhhhhhh we went to watch them last night at the bridgewater hall in manchester

we loved it - so fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!

made me so homesick.

afterwards a few of them came out to talk to people and they signed my programme

ahhhhhh

UP THE ARSENAL....................... :luck:

NewsRoom Wrote:A transsexual whose 17-year marriage to an heiress was nullified when the wife discovered that her husband was a woman is not legally a parent of her 14-year-old daughter born from donor sperm, the Court of Appeal has ruled.

The female-to-male transsexual, referred to in court as Mr J, is now in law a man under the 2004 Gender Recognition Act and can lawfully marry a woman if he wishes.

But three appeal judges held that because at the time of his "marriage" to Mrs C, now 49, in 1977 he was still a woman, he had no parental rights.

The law required that when a woman conceived and gave birth through artificial insemination by donor, the other party to the marriage must be a man in order to qualify as a parent, the judges said.

Mr J was still a woman when the child was conceived in 1991 and, as there was no legal marriage, he could not be "a party" to it.

The judges that heard Mr J was born with gender dysmorphia, underwent hormone treatment and had breasts removed before, at the age of 30, he met and married Mrs C, then aged 20 and from a wealthy background.

He concealed his true gender from her for 17 years, using a home-made artificial penis for sex. It was not until she began divorce proceedings that Mrs C saw her "husband's" birth certificate describing him as female, and realised she had married a transsexual. At a previous Court of Appeal hearing in 1996, Mr J failed in a bid for a share of the marriage wealth, including a £400,000 home.

In yesterday's case, Mr J, now 59, failed in his bid for a declaration of parenthood, despite the fact that he now has a gender recognition certificate and a birth certificate recording his birth as a male. Dismissing Mr J's challenge, Lord Justice Wall said the court accepted that he was now a man in the eyes of the law.

But he continued: "That does not, however, mean that he was not a woman on 17 July 1977, the date that he entered into the ceremony of marriage with Mrs C."

He said he had never been legally married to Mrs C and in those circumstances was not entitled to a declaration of parenthood.

Lords Justices Thorpe, Wall and Richards ordered that neither party should be identified to protect the daughter and an elder child, who was also born after artificial insemination, and is now 18.

The judges said how the children were to learn the truth about their origins was sensitive. The mother, now remarried and who wishes her husband to adopt her children, has agreed to take advice from a psychiatrist before explaining their background to them. Daily Telegraph

hi, I am trying to get some information for a person in south africa. She is a british citizen (born in the uk). She was born in 1958. She has a daughter that was born in 1991 (15 years old ) and she wants information on getting a british passport for her daughter. AT the moment she is finding it hard to get any info from the british consulate in south africa, so has emailed me to find out what she will need to do etc....
please help if possible ad:

May God grant you always a sunbeam to warm you
A moonbeam to charm you
A sheltering angel so nothing can harm you
Laughter to cheer you
Faithful friends near you
And whenever you pray heaven to hear you
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:am: Morning to you all!

It's nearly weekend - have a great day

A minister decided that a visual demonstration would add emphasis to his Sunday sermon.

Four worms were placed into four separate jars.

The first worm was put into a container of alcohol.

The second worm was put into a container of cigarette smoke.

The third worm was put into a container of chocolate syrup.

The fourth worm was put into a container of good clean soil.

At the conclusion of the sermon, the Minister reported the following results:

The first worm in alcohol - Dead.

The second worm in cigarette smoke - Dead.

Third worm in chocolate syrup - Dead.

Fourth worm in good clean soil - Alive.

So the Minister asked the congregation - What can you learn from this demonstration?

A little old woman in the back quickly raised her hand and said,
"As long as you drink, smoke and eat chocolate,
you won't have worms!"

There is a thread on Voetsek under parenting, entilted Looking for good schools by Carol&Pete which some of the people on this site might like to contribute to. I have added some advice, based on my own experince, but obviously there are many people out there with different and varied experience of schools in Britain.

I apologise for posting this here, but I did not want to direct Caroline to here, as that would constitute advertising and I did not want Lionel to get upset with me, but as most of us on here know about voetsek I thought that Admin of Globabuzz would not mind (too much) me directing people elsewhere to help a fellow South African.

I am just trying to help someone. I remember the days when I (like may others) did not have the benefit of the internet and could not get advice.

Apologies Admin but I could not think of a way providing more help to Caroline. Globalbuzz is an excellent site and it is my opinion that the people that post on here are "good guys" and I just want to help someone.

Regards,

Benoniboy



:edit:with ForumAdmin permission - moved to Parenting Forum

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4774059.stm
A five-week national knife amnesty, which will allow people to hand in the weapons without fear of prosecution, will run from 24 May to 30 June.

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This has surely got to be one of the most daft pieces I have read in a while! In fact I'm so tempted to go and organise a group of chefs to hand in their 'weapons'

Whilst knife crime is serious, I cannot see the logic in confiscating knives and giving people an amnesty when handing them in. Some wiley criminals will no doubt use the opportunity to dress in chef's whites and claim they're carrying them for 'work related purposes' :wall:

Next we'll see chefs having to enrol and be registered/ licensed to carry knives around :duh:

Great thinking! Surely the government can think of more mundane reasons to prevent knife crime... perhaps having a more visible presence and less PC-driven policies of actually getting the culprits and convicting them?

This is going to raise a few giggles in the kitchen!
My brother has literally come to my front door 'brandishing' a knife that he is wanting to give to me. Had some eagle-eyed curtain twitcher seen this, I would not be surprised to see the armed police come screaming over and confiscate/ arrest/ interrogate us for having knives!

Sheer madness!!!